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Hi Steve, welcome to the list! Your live setup is pretty interesting to me, I'm a big fan of the VL70M myself. == Yeh, the VL70 is very interesting. What I did is, got those Patchman patches for it and then spent a long long time editing from the buttons on the front panel. I agree, the software editor is pretty daunting - I only went in there once to do something very specific -- but you can do a lot with the front panel stuff to make it much more musical. I never tried too many other controllers -- just a breath controller and pitch bend wheel, which you can do a lot with. I usually have the pitch bend wheel controlling many parameters -- sometimes absorption and damping, for example, as well as pitch -- which makes it very musical. Also, I use the modulation wheel to control the depth of the effects, which is easy to program from the box, too. I'll probably be changing that, though, since I got the Kaos pad and am using that.