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I was a real skeptic about turntablists until I saw a guy who calls himself DJ Quest. At one point he was running a four bar loop on one turntable and doing fills off the second one. It was just amazing, and infectiously danceable. After my shock wore off, I began to watch his hands very closely, and what I saw was the results of the same kind of practice I put in on my instrument. YOu can see it on great guitarists and keyboard players - economy of motion and grace. It was real clear to me that I was watching a musician. And my tapping toes didn't need convincing. I run an online music conference on the Well, and I hear a lot of musicians dissing entire genres. It's always a sign of ignorance. I say that there are no bad genres, just bad examples. If I take the time to familiarize myself with any from of music, I can alway find somebody playing it that reaches me. In fact, I usede to joke that there was probably a polka band out there that I'd love, but that I just hadn't heard them yet. Then someone sent me a tape of Polkacide and proved me right. As for how a person makes music, I'm only interested in an academic sense. It's what comes out of the speakers that matters most to me. And if you think that twin turntables is easy, you simply haven't seen a good turntablist. If you think it's cheating somehow, I suggest you stop using the preprogrammed harmonies we call chords on your guitar or keyboard. I mean, really. Em9 has been DONE.