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At 05:26 PM 5/20/01 -0500, Skye wrote: >Why is there such an atttempt to deny deny deny the validity of >what they are doing as a musical expression? Before everyone tries to >formulate why they are s dismissable, perhas it would be good to actually >know what is involved with the art... I know in my case my prejudice in viewing turntablists as less creative than "real" musicians was simply because for a long time my only exposure to this technique was seeing really bad amateur scratchers ripping off the same bunch of beats, while someone tried to break-dance. After encountering a few really creative and musical DJs, though, I realized that this view was much like basing my opinion of guitarists on that kid in the music shop butchering the riff from "Sweet Child o' Mine" just a tad bit too loud. (It used to be 'Stairway', these days it's probably Korn or something...) As with any instrument, the really good players are greatly outnumbered by the wannabes. I wish Bill Murphy's liner notes for Bill Laswell's 'Altered Beats' were available online; he makes some comments about the turntable as an instrument that are germane to this thread, but it's waaaaay too much to transcribe... Tim