I also control my mix from the stage. The only people I've EVER felt comfortable with, working with the mix, were certain bandmates, or a co-worker who was a sound person. and, even then there were issues with some of the band. The idea that the sound person is supposed to HELP in the process is a really good one, but *laughing* it seems particularly rare to me, when musicians report on that actually happening. I think that part of it is that anybody can be a "sound person" and worse yet, some have the attitude that they know it all, because they really don't. <smile> The ones who do, usually won't act like it! lol! Anyway, -just my thoughts... Smiles, Goddess At 11:47 AM 7/20/01 -0500, you wrote: >i understand the need to want to control all your gear from the >stage...but >just to throw in my 2 cents worth...thats the soundman's basic job to >amplify, mix, and produce a clear audible whole for the front house to >hear. >i do know how you feel because i have felt the same way before as a >musician, especially being a mallet/percussion player. However, i have >become a house soundman at a club this year and now understand the >importance of having control over the front house. The soundman's KEY job >is to make you sound better!!!! period. if he is not accomplishing that >goal >i would suggest bringing your own soundman to the gig...which of course >isnt >always affordable...but if at all possible, it makes a crucial difference >to >have someone on your side out front makin sure the audience hears what >your >playin the way you want them to hear it. >shane > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jehn <firstname.lastname@example.org> >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 8:22 AM >Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN > > >> Don't give up on the solo gig! I hook everything together on my mackie >> onstage and send the outs through a D/O back to the sound guy and >control >as >> much as I can from stage. My last gig was as minimal as it can possibly >get. >> Looping voice, I usually use a JamMan, and two old EchoPlus DSPs. Well, >two >> of the three died prior to the gig, so I did my set with ONE EchoPlus, >my >> voice, and a harmonica. Now I'm all about minimalism. Intimacy is good. >> Congrats on your gig! >> Jehn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "whiteoakstudios" <email@example.com> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 2:42 AM >> Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN >> >> >> > I just give the sound man a stereo feed and use my own in-ear >monitoring - >> > at least then it sounds good to me and I just tell the sound man/woman >to >> > pan hard right and left, with no eq. >> > It takes a real idiot to mess up those instructions - though last >time I > >> > played out of doors and followed the above I came down from stage and >> asked >> > a freind how it went and he said"fine but I though you could have done >> more >> > with stereo placement". I replied that the sound was bouncing all over >the >> > place - turns out the PA man runs it all in mono!! >> > >> > Gareth >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > just got in from my gig opening for SUGAR DADDY AND THE BIG BONED >> > GALS.....went in 2 hours early for a sound check....."we supply all >the >> > speakers etc.".....the sound guy took all my inputs and rearranged >them >in >> > my >> > mixer and sent it out to his console.....for about 2 mins this sounded >ok >> > (total sound check) but i was worried and not quite happy.....i am >not a >> > great or even good player, but i do pride myself in "my >sound".....WELL, >> > 8:00 >> > o'clock comes and the first note i hit sounds like *shit* and i begin >to >> get >> > worried.....this is nothing like what we had set up and his >configuration >> > totally freaked me, things were not where they should have >been.....where >> > was >> > the sound guy, NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.....yikes, the show must go on and >no >> one >> > wants to see a 53 year old man cry, although i was sweating like a pig >in >> > the >> > sahara, so thankfully they could not see my tears.....IT WAS AWFUL, i >had >> no >> > control of anything, boy does that make you feel like being >> > adventuresome.....then after cutting it about 10 mins. short everyone >> comes >> > up and says "wow that was cool " and LIES to that >effect.....thankfully >> the >> > WILD TURKEY (sorry no scotch) kicked in and i did not burn my guitar >and >> > rang.....i will never play through someone elses system again.....in >fact, >> > this solo thing is getting to weird, i need other warm bodies to help >the >> > tunes out.....sorry for such a goofy post but if i cant share this >with >> you >> > all who can i share it with.....:(m >> > >> > >> >> > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..."