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Hi, I use this black plastic tubing and wire wraps to do this. THe tubing is kind of like washing machine tubing , a little mroe flexible than pvc platic pipe. Works great until you have a cable go bad or you change your setup and need to add or remove some wires or you need an etrax 2 ft on some o the cables. I also try to seperate the power form the audio cables when i can but it's no big deal.Create a patchbay type hook up on your pedalboard and on your rack , I just stuff the cable into my rack still attached at one end.works ok.... denis denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 11:55 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (NEW) rack to floor cables?? At 8:52 AM +0200 7/26/01, mark.red@involvelearning.com wrote: >On another issue: I have been thinking of making a big fat multicore cable >to connect my rack of er..