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At 6:04 PM -0700 8/1/01, Mark Sottilaro wrote:
>Sorry Tom, but where I come from when someone tells you something
>like, "as soon
>as we get a power supply..." at a point when they're 10 months away
>from having
>finished software, you are being lied to. When you're told a
>shipping date at a
>point when "nasty crashes and lock-ups...or card memory corruption!!" is
>even
>close to being an issue, you are being lied to.
Hey, those were MY words, not Electrix'!
>Maybe in the sunny love love land
>where you live, everyone tries very hard at their job and does a great
>job,
Actually, it's New York City (as if y'all didn't know that)
so it's not particularly sunny and love love.
<self-aggrandizement>
However, I personally manage to deliver a pretty astounding
volume of high-quality code, specifications and documentation
myself... and the other people I work with are pretty swift too.
But I've been doing it a long time. I expect to
see a lot of bugs in other people's code, particularly
if I wasn't involved, and I expect that these might
take a very long time to fix.
</self-aggrandizement>
I might add that real-time code is the hardest to debug.
>but
>here in the real world, I find people that call themselves "project
>managers" or
>"marketing engineers" to talk out their ass on a regular basis.
It is pretty variable, but yes.
>Setting
>unrealistic due dates is one of their greatest skills. I'd love to here
>an
>uncensored version of what's going on at Electrix from an
>engineer/software
>engineer. I'd bet we'd all have a nice chuckle.
well, here's a joke.
Q: what's the difference between a used car salesman and a
computer salesman?
A: the used car salesman knows when he's lying.
><nelson> Ha ha </nelson>
!
Glad to have some more Repeater rumours to waste our
time on, I was beginning to actually get some work done.
/t
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