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regarding Chris Muir's remeniscences of giant concrete pipes down Portola Ave in Santa Cruz, I remember them very well and wanted to let anybody know that there is a very, very cool and new reverberant space right on the Pacific Garden Mall that I just discovered. It is a long hallway that is chained off in the building that now houses the Oneill surf and clothing shop across from the new cinemas: you have to walk right up to the chain link fence and suddenly there is the most beautiful and very long reverb present: I have tried overtone singing, frame drumming and flute playing into this space. The magic of it is that from ten feet away you dont' even hear it......when you are right at the chain link fence it is completley mesmerizing. Here while back, I tried to get a found sound group going on the web and tried to get people interested in posting a list of natural and man made timbral phenomena that we audionauts could discover while travelling around the country.........I didn't get much interest at all, but I would like to propose this as an off topic thread: WHAT KICK ASS SONIC ANOMALIES DO YOU KNOW OF IN YOUR HOMETOWN........WHAT WIERD ASSED PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE OR SCULPTURES OR PLUMBING EXISTS TO BE STRUCK OR BLOWN ON OR OTHERWISE PUSHED INTO RESONANCE........ ..........there..........the challenge is out there (which I am sometimes, as well ;-) yours, loop.pool (aka, Rick Walker)