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d/t mentioned Loop Artifacts. I am in love with artifacts..........there, I said it <smile> My wife is currently doing very fine editing on her first solo singersongwriter record. We are now the proud parents of two PC recording/editing systems and so as I work in the kitchen on my wierd stuff, (the new 1.4 mghz machine has completely usurped the last vestiges of our dining table, relegating us to holding our dinner plates in our laps LOL) she is micro editing her guitar, bass, drum, percussion and vocal tracks. Consequently, ever once in a while I'll hear her looping a little fragment trying to figure out some e.q. strategy or click removal strategy and I'll go flying into the room and yell "don't erase that, it sounds incredible as a loop". I'm using at least two of those serendipities on my next abstract looping record. I once did a recording in the other room (because with percussion the harddrives are just too damn noisy) and on the way back into the room I stumble over one of my bags (too numerous to mention) of metal percussion before I could turn the record button off. What a killer artifact!!! It got me on this kick of just taking random bags of percussion and recording dumping them over just to 'create' random artifacts. I've gotten several really interesting loops that were actually quite rhythmically useful from such experiments. I'd love to get an ARTIFACTS thread going. What are some really killer accidents that we have stumbled on in our looping trials and tribulations..........did any accidents lead people to new techniques. I'm so fascinated with the RANDOM in music these days..........discovering it, trying to create it without controlling it and then applying my rigid, form compulsive aesthetic to the results <tongue in cheek> Well???????? Who will be brave and start it off? later, Rick Walker P.S. appropos of absolutely nothing, i'm incredibly proud and excited to announce that I have been invited by Sufi master musician, Daud Al' Jerrahi to go and have an evening of improvisation with the wonderful Nubian musican, Hamza Al' Din who is one of my greatest heroes, musically.......i'm dancing around the room and even postponing my long overdue vacation by one day in order to do it.........wish me luck.......