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kim, would you please consider TEMPORARILY moderating the list? in these difficult times, i ( and others, perhaps) am toubled by all these emotional ( and sometimes reactionary) responses. it is understandable, but frustrating... and i do wonder if the reason that these folks are not using a different list is the desire for an audience.. which perhaps the looping list should not provide. it doesn't seem to be contributing to the overall well-being of anyone. just a thought.