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Kim Flint wrote: > At 02:19 PM 9/13/2001, Per Boysen wrote: > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > > > Robert van der Kamp > > > Am I correct that when changing the pitch of a given track, its > > > speed does not change? > > > >Yes, that's correct. And the other way around; if you change speed the >track > >does not change pitch. > > > > > Supose I want 'real' slomo, changing both the speed and pitch > > > of all 4 tracks, and the Repeater is synced to an external clock, > > > what would I do to get this done? > > > >Try bringing down the tempo of that external clock. But Repeater does >not > >change tempo on the spot, it kind of slows down over a couple of beats. > > What Robert is looking for is an effect like tape speed change, or delay > time change on old delays, where changing the speed *does* change the > pitch. Correct. > Among Loopers, that effect has always been see as a good and > desireable thing, while among remix artists it is apparently a bad thing. > (I assume that is why the repeater doesn't work that way?) > > So no, the repeater does not do the tape speed slow down effect. Speed >and > pitch change are independent. You could probably rig up a midi continuous > controller setup where two midi cc messages were sent at the same time to > control both pitch and time. (I haven't tried this, so I don't know if it > works or how much it sounds like a real slow-down effect.) With real >tape > speed or delay time slow downs you don't get artifacts in the audio. with > sustained sounds in the repeater, you get artifacts when you time >stretc. I > have experienced that with long sustained chords the speed correction > causes artifacts after 5-10BPM of change. Ah, and how do these artifacts sound? I'd love to hear this effect. BTW, pitch changes do not produce any artifacts? Only speed changes? > Some of you probably want those > artifacts, so it is good I guess. If you weren't expecting it, you'll > probably find it annoying. Now I'm curious! ;) I currently use an Emu sampler for the slowdown effect, and it does a beautiful job at that. I was hoping the the Repeater could provide me with a more real-time interface for the same trick. - Robert > > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com