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I've got a Fostex DMT8vl that i would be willing to part with... 8 tracks... 44.1 uncompressed audio I/O 2 track recording at a time (4 if you use the optical i/o with the analog) 8 channel analog mixer 2 fx sends and 2 stereo returns. It served me very very well for the last 5 years. rock solid. it recently got packed away since i migrated to the mac/logic. it's pretty much a cross between a 4 track on steroids and a VS880. analog and traditional transport feel with hard drive recording. you could put it in a rackmount shelf thingamagig... it would probably fit flat in 2-3 spaces? ummmm.....$400? paid $1100 for the thing and have put in about $250 in hard drive and software upgrade. email me privately if interested. best, rich > > i'd stay away from the vestax...but i'd look at fostex. they have a >line of 8 and 16 track recorders that are rack mountable, and resemble >adat's in form and feel... > >but those are WAY over the $500 price tag! > >