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If we're brainstorming, here's some thoughts... Why design all custom hardware? Why not use the Alesis ADAT model (i.e., their use of stock VCR tape transports) and use as much off-the-shelf hardware as possible ? (I realize Alesis is *probably* a bad example to use...) Use a commonly available PC motherboard but *don't* use the "standard" software. It boots only looper-ware. Sure the motherboard would have far too much hardware than you need but it might be cheaper in production and certainly would not require as much R&D. The problem with looping on a stock PC is not the hardware so much as the non-real-time (bloated) OS. Some custom hardware would be probably required. But probably not too much. You could probably get by with all off-the-shelf hardware except for the user interface. I'm just not sure if complete off-the-shelf hardware is cost effective. After all, it's the software that primarily makes a looper. Excepting the user interface (like the EDP LED display) what is the hardware? ADC, DAC, MIDI interface, memory, processor, supply, and probably something like a NIC, USB, or SCSI. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com