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my friend was pondering this and our solution (one of many, i'm sure) was steinburg rebirth. the reasons were 1. i think overall it is a superior program. the synth programing is more intuitive for musicians. of course that's only my opinion. 2. rebirth has the "mod" functions that allow you to expand it beyond the tr909 default and program with your own samples, just like fruityloops. to my habits the effects section is also much more accesible and intuitive. hope this is helpful, take care, phil > From: Mike Feeney <feeneymike@yahoo.com> > To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" > <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Subject: Fruity loops > > Speaking of fruity loops, i've used that on the pc > many times but have more > recently gone back to the light side of the force > (bought a Mac). Is there > a Mac program out there similar to fruity loops? > > Thanks! > > Mike ===== "Compassion is the sometimes fatal capacity for feeling what it's like to live inside somebody else's skin. It is the knowledge that there can never really be any peace and joy for me until there is peace and joy finally for you too." -Frederick Buechner "The jewel is in the lotus." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com