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Hedawa7 has written: > scott, > when peter b said, > >> >I've noticed whenever someone attempts Soundscapes they're really > performing > >> >Frippertronics. > > and i then replied: > >> cchhhhwwrauugh, now *there's* a (dinosauric) crock of shite..... >again! > >> so many years later, this minor ignorance still gets up my nose. > >> what exactly is a 'soundscape'?; > .....well..... i meant to pose a rhetorical question, in order to point out > that not everyone who uses looping-instruments employs > 'soundscapes'/'frippertronics' as their 'model' or 'base'. > > regardless, thanks for your response. And then... > that's what i think; again, i was responding to how i perceived peter b's > root-assumption, which seemed to imply that all loopists are attempting > 'soundscapes/frippertronics'..... which, imo, is erroneous if merely > uninformed. I did not say that "all loopists" were "attempting" anything! I'm referring to an occasional download from either LD or Elephant Talk by those, like me, who have their creative roots in Crim-related material. What I meant was, on occasion, when someone features their work as Soundscapes (which, from listening to RF's CDs, employs a less repetitious pattern with drastic fading after only a few repeats at most) it sounds more akin to Frippertronics (which employs constant repetition with almost unnoticable fading until you realize it's almost gone several minutes later). Got it? Just those people in particular, not the entire looping community! But, as I implied, I don't have a problem with it; just an observation. No offense was meant to anyone regarding this; nevertheless, if you have something bad up your nose, by all means grab a hanky and blow! And to Chris Muir: I'm fully aware of the works of Riley, Reich, and Oliveiros. However, no one has brought out this technique to the public at large better than Fripp & Eno, for obvious reasons. Just as Jimi Hendrix innovated electric guitar techniques even though he didn't invent the instrument or D.W. Griffith innovated storytelling in the movies without inventing cameras or film (though his praising of the KKK leaves a lot to doubt), F&E took this invention and turned it into their own separate entities. So I must disagree that RF "didn't innovate" (you'll have to refer to your own letter as I've already quoted the above). He is indeed worthy of the term Frippertronics (and, yes, I'm also aware that the term started as as joke). I also hope Soundscapes is becoming the new fashionable term as "ambient" has now lost its original meaning when Eno first conceived it. Yeah, yeah, two different things. Finally, thanks Mark Sottilaro for your advice and to those who recommended the Repeater. I'm going to try one out now! Your minor ignorant, Peter Badore