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----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Zvonar" <zvonar@zvonar.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: 18 November 2001 18:37 PM Subject: Re: kingcrimson in sf-no loop content... > At 1:58 PM +0000 11/18/01, Steve Lawson wrote: > >On the subject of naming stuff (Frippertronics, Belewps etc), isn't > >it just about things being memorable? > > After all, Robert Fulton didn't invent the steamboat and Arnold > Schoenberg didn't invent the 12-tone row, but they are deservedly > famous for their development and exploitation of these things. > > > >Is Fripp any less influential in either real or theoretical terms > >because he was taking that which was being caried out largely in > >academia and then regurgitating it in a pop context (or even that > >which was being used in a fringe pop way, and making it a little > >more mainstream)? > > It's worth pointing out that a lot of the innovation under discussion > was actually being done _outside_ of academia, and in fact was often > in reaction to the stodginess of the academic scene. > > > >I'm a firm believer in credit where it's due, so it would be nice if > >peope perceived as innovators were a little more vocal in crediting > >sources. > > I was witness to an example of that during a panel about the early > years of analog synthesizers, featuring Bob Moog and several of his > associates. When the the topic of Moog's sequencer module came up Bob > said, "oh, that was an idea I copped from Don Buchla." It should also be pointed out that Moog worked with the inventive genius Raymond Scott during the 50s, when he was just a pup. Scott invented a variety of eclectic electronic music-generating devices, and their results are available via the finer-than-fine Basta Records at http://194.178.62.202/scripts/catalogus.cgi?cat_no=4 And they're fine human beans too. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live!