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I would say that on the subject of Originality, discussions about it are, to me at least, hugely helpful. Mainly because there is generally all manner of minutae that gets fluffed up in the process, and as DT so aptly said in response to my original post, the answers are deeply personal. I love talking about music, almost as much as listening to it or playing it - one of the best things about my last mini tour of the California was the chance to discuss improvisational approach and concept with Rick Walker (a hugelyhugelyhugely inspiring and creative guy to spend time with and play with) and with Michael Manring and Max Valentino, and also with Andre LaFosse and Ric Hordenski at the LA Loop Fest - I got ideas from listening to each of them (I've got a couple of pieces on the go at the moment that are conceptually utterly indebted to Andre - exploring the 'replace' function on my JamMan after seeing him do his amazing stuff with the EDP) but also from talking to them... ...no there's a thought - a music 'training' weekend/band camp concept, where noone is allowed to bring an instrument, just CDs in order to show where you're coming from? :o) Talktalktalk and probably end up deeply confused, but in a good way... LOL Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk