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more like wanting to change the "amp" sound without effecting the existing loop and also wanting to loop other things than guitar... i am using a mixer to make this happen. i am in the process of making a rig to gig with, so my signal chain is in flux, but here is my thinking at the moment: 1 - guitar (or bass or trumpet) 2 - pedal board (including pod) 3 - parallel connection to alesis 12r mixer (out to mains) and kawai mx8-sr (to edp and repeater and later probably to kyma as well) also feeding mixers: voice, congas, bass. this setup will allow me to easily select any channel to send to loopers as well as allow a separate mix of those channels. i didn't like the idea of using a mixer with extra aux sends because you can't grab several rotary pots at once and you don't get a good graphical representation of what's in the mix. > jim palmer wrote: > > > ... running a looper between guitar and amp just doesn't cut it for me. > > i assume this is because you want to be able to select the amp sound (or >the looper) rather > than always have it in the signal chain? > > how about using a mixer for this instead? > > i'd love to get more info from those on the list with what they consider >successful > instrument/mic/mixer/effects/amp (not nec. in that order) signal chains; >both for live > situations and recording. i know this topic has come up in the past, but >i need another fix > :-) > > lance g. > > > >