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I think they do that to make things 'easier' or 'more comfortable' for people. In the world of MIDI, most values start at 0. There are 16 channels: 0-15. There are 128 program changes possible: 0-127. Likewise with CCs. Many devices display these 0 based numbers as 1 based numbers in their UI and documentation: channels 1-16, programs 1-128, CCs 1-128. But many devices use both 0 based numbers and 1 based numbers for different things: channels 1-16, program changes 0-127, etc. So when you program a footcontroller you need to know whether channels, program changes and control changes are 0 or 1 based (on the controller and at the controllee). At 09:56 AM 1/8/2002, Cliff wrote: >I read in the Repeater manual last night that some manufacturers add 1 >number to PC and that sometimes subtracting/adding 1 from what the manual >says can fix the issue- I wonder why they would do that?