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$290 is not a bad price for that unit. the DL4 will cost you close to that new... best of luck, rich >Thanks fellas... I noticed one at a pawnshop for $290 the other day >and had never heard of it... I did see the button/lens problem >though. I've been looking for an 'ok' delay sampler with a low to >moderate $$$ price range... thinking Akai headrush but doesnt seem >to have a long enough delay time for me... does anyone recomend >perhaps a step up from that... that wont kill a poor college student? > >Here is my set up if that will help... >Guitar/mic|->RP-5(stereo)->Mixer(monitor out)->?Delayloop?->Mixer > |->TSR-24s(2 main outs)->Mixer/2aux of TSR->4amp's or 2pa's >Everything is controlled through the mixer(its an oldie) >(the whole setup depends on situation, this is just an average situation)