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With Andys musical, philosophical and tecnical questioning, he made me see clearer what he does not mention in his post: We have levels and ranges of Quantisation (a better word, please?) : Immediate = Start at button press / Stop at button press (keep the musicians impulse) Rounding = Start at button press / Stop at a multiple time (keep the rhythm) Quantizing = Start at next beat one / Stop at next beat one (keep rhythm and bar structure) Are there any more such levels? Those Quantisation levels represent somehow the conflict Freedom >< Organization We dont have the freedom not to select one level at any time. maybe the picture of a business balance calulation helps: * Quantized The classical way to do the balance is every January 1. Employees have to work long hours after eating too much and sleeping little at festivities/holyday... * Round Up Maybe the business has been opened at March 1, so its easy and obvious to do the balance after a year, every March 1. But the tax institute may not accept it. * RetroQuantize? So you can do the caluculation at March 1, but using the bills up to Dez 31. (hey, this is not implemented yet! Would anyone want this?) * Round Down If you miss the end of March and calculate at April 10, you can omit ten days of the previous year and do April 10 - April 10 (nobody would do that, but it explains how the Round Down case of my Multiply function works ;-) * Immediate The most modern way is to let the computer calculate the balance over any period. This is not comparable data, but still tells you about any period you may be interested in. * Time Stretch? You can mathematically extend an immediate calculation of any period to a whole year! This is dangerous, because you THINK you know what happens that year... Apart from the level, we also select the range of the Quantisation: In the business picture, it means that you can do a monthly, quarterly or yearly calculation. Loop4 quantizes to: none - 8th - cycle - loop, while it only rounds to cycle. Well, Business is not a nice picture, please come up with a better one! -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org