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"Let's face it, looping and looping tools are pretty damn geeky as a rule. We don't do this for the money or glamour..." Now you tell me! ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Legion" <legion@helpwantedproductions.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:47 PM Subject: Looping is overrated :) > OK forgive the baiting title but there is a point to this. From all the > recent discussions on moving to somewhere else because the "loop > community" seems stronger, to Loopfests and such I felt I had to pipe > up. > > The greatest music I have heard from loopers (from the Looper's Delight > CDs to recommendations in posting from Phil Keaggy to David Zorn) seems > to me to be good *despite* looping, not because of it. Now don't get me > wrong, I am all for looping and looping tools, and repetition, and > messing with sound backwards, sideways, and again and again in-yo-face. > I think my personal track record (for those of you who know me LOL) > speaks for itself. BUT I personally feel that looping *itself* isn't the > point, even on a list of people called the Looper's Delight. It's what > you DO with looping and boy there is some *great* stuff done with > looping out there. > > This may be stating the obvious but the gist I was getting is some > people feel that they need to go somewhere where looping is encouraged > or more prevalent and things would be different for them. I think that > is a red herring. Loop where you are and DO something YOU want to do > with it. Let's face it, looping and looping tools are pretty damn geeky > as a rule. We don't do this for the money or glamour, we do it because > our brains are wired differently (wrong? :)) Given that, you don't need > to move across the country to be "successful" in looping or even play a > gig with three or ten other loopers. As a matter of fact I've found more > success when I *didn't* play with other loopers but as part of a diverse > lineup of other acts. You reach more people that way and some of them > even kind of dig it. I personally think I played better too. > > Phil Keaggy is consider an amazing *musician* not known to the general > public as a looper. Adrian Belew uses looping out the wazoo but he also > has a strong pop sensibility and tremendous talent as a songwriter and > singer. Etc. People do fabulous things with all sorts of boxes. Buying > an EDP or Jamman or whatever or seeing a band with one doesn't mean > it'll be interesting or good or shite, it's just a box after all. Let's > not forget where the loop soul comes from. > > Again, I am ALL for wanking and looping for the sake of it too. (Lord > knows I am!) That is fun and has it's place as much as anything else. > But let's keep it in perspective, we can (and DO ) do that anywhere. You > don't HAVE to move or congregate to play. If you mix it up or play > with other bands I guarantee you will not only get a bigger audience but > you'll find your loop chops improving as well. > > And BTW Chicago is the GREATEST musical community this country has to > offer IMO. I'd move from SF to there instead of the other way around > LOL! > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com > "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." > > Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and > info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. > > >