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>Now I'm curious: how would things like unrounded multiply, 8th-quantized >substitute, or SUS-insert be done on a Repeater/DL4/JamMan/Boomerang? > Unrounded multiply == Shorten loop, this can't be done on all loopers, but it can be done on the repeater 8th Quantized Substitute == overdub rhythmically (really replace rhythmically, but lets say overdub because it produces a similar if not the exact effect). I've done this on the repeater, DL4, Headrush and Boomerang, I don't own a JamMan, but I've seen it done there too. I haven't gotten my LoopIV upgrade yet, so I don't remember what SUS-Insert does, but if you remind me I can describe how to do it for you. Note: I'm not against the EDP, heck I own one. But I've done a lot of experimenting with other boxes to do what I need to do. The EDP can certainly do all those things much more directly (especially with a super-duper MIDI command center under your feet) and probably better than they could be done with another looping unit, but that doesn't mean that they don't share capabilities. I don't really use most of the features of the EDP, and I've never gigged with mine. I've found working with the other, simpler, boxes is usually more than enough for what I do. I keep promising myself to spend some serious time woodshedding with the EDP so that I can feel comfortable with it, but I haven't really had a chance. Kevin -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com --