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From what I gather, it's not so much the rates as it is the fact that internet radio has to pay an extra fee that the regular radio stations don't. Everyone pays to BMI or ASCAP for rights to broadcast. The Internet guys pay that and then this CARP fee to the RIAA because the RIAA claims that it's easier to copy from Internet radio. It's a punitive fee, used as a weapon in the RIAA's war on all Internet audio technology. on 6/21/02 Kim Flint wrote: >I don't really know many details about the CARP thing, in regards to >what >royalty rates would be fair or not. I do listen to Live365 a lot though. >In >my opinion, Herb Tarlek is a sales and marketing genius compared to >these >guys. For all the listener hours they claim to get, the ads they manage >to >sell are simply pathetic. All the other sites I've seen seem about the >same >or worse. No wonder they freak out about having to pay a royalty. > >It seems to me that broadcasters should pay some royalty to whoever owns >rights to a piece of music, whether they are on the web or radio waves >or >whatever. I have no ideas about what that rate should be, I gather that >is >what a lot of the controversy is about. However, it seems pretty clear >to >me that if the number is bigger than zero most or all of these >webcasting >companies will go out of business very quickly. Most likely they will >get >replaced by new webcasting companies that actually know how to run a >broadcasting *business*, as opposed to just knowing how to set up the >servers for one and code some html. > >kim > >At 03:36 PM 6/21/2002, Clifford Novey wrote: >>No it's .07 per play- but if SomaFM would pay 500 a day that is over >7000 >>songs per day- it adds up- and if it would have been .014 per play it >would >>have been $99 a day for them not $500- quite a difference. >> >>Cliff >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Greg House" <ghunicycle@yahoo.com> >>To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >>Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:26 PM >>Subject: Re: OT: CARP passed- this sucks. >> >> >> > >> > --- Clifford Novey <om@om-studios.com> wrote: >> > > What a major bummer. >> > > >> > > http://www.somafm.com/ >> > >> > They got a lower rate then what they'd asked for, but it's still >> > outrageous. Something like $0.70/play, given 1000 listeners. I >believe >> > broadcast radio is still down in the 1 digit cents. Seems >ridiculously >> > unfair. And not only that, but it's still retroactive to 1998. >> > >> > As you say, major bummer. >> > >> > Greg >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >> > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com >> > >> > >> > > >______________________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > ------------------------------------------ Greg Kucharo- mutantaudio.com