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Ahh, time, the great healer . . . The solution was to assign note off messages to match the Undo notes (after the parameter push--serves as reverse). For some reason, Undo note on messages with no note off are resetting the loop in the new EDP LoopIV OS (after parameter push anyway--it's all programmed into the PMC, so it goes pretty fast). Didn't do it in the last OS--but I fixed my own problem . . . I am still interested in hearing how others may achieve this effect--I know there a great many ways to skin this particular cat. I mapped the Ztar to cover the spectrum of Direct MIDI functions--just barely gets 'em all (three octaves of Note Ons!), but it looks like quite a few of these commands are better executed without the use of the hands, so you can keep playing. Too much stuff to check out all at once--an embarassment of riches. Thanks again all . . . Gary