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At 4:51 PM -0700 6/23/02, Kim Flint wrote: [a bunch of stuff that makes good sense from a capitalist perspective.] I'm going to bow out of this debate at this point because I think that several of you have eloquently argued for my position, but in a nutshell: For many of us the Internet has promised to be a viable alternative to the entrenched corporate model of the music industry. An important part of the Do It Yourself (DIY) alternative is the dissemination of our music through on-line commerce, mp3 downloads, and streaming audio. A major component of promotion is the community of small Webcasters who are more interested in the music than in the music business. While some of these people may be the fools and incompetents that Kim suggests, I think that a lot of them are simply enthusiasts or are deliberately small businesses for whom the RIAA/CARP royalties will make the difference between continuing and not. When I ran the figures for a small "hobbyist" Web station with 100 listeners I found that the royalties could be in the neighborhood of $10,000 per annum. That might be peanuts for a commercial operation, but if one wished to avoid commercial sponsorship it would really be too much. The alternative to paying the royalties is to obtain individual releases from all the artists to be Webcast, and this added burden of paperwork would probably cause a lot of marginal operations to shut down as well. My position is that one of the prime virtues of the Web is its ability to support a large community of "marginal" on-line publishers. The sheer variety of obscure and diverse material that is made available through such a grass-roots system is to the benefit of all of us (enriching the "gene pool"). In contrast to this we have the "commercial" publishers who have to be concerned with the bottom line, with the resulting proliferation of ads and boiling down of programming to only the most popular material ("inbreeding"). -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz