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all that work spent writing the manual and he doesn't even read it..... At 10:32 PM 6/24/2002, Gary Lehmann wrote: >Here's something to watch out for-- >Assuming I'm not the only dunderhead on this list, I thought I would share >tonight's misadventure (I thought the chips had malfunctioned)-- >When you change Insert to sus, it also affects Multiply! This is well >documented but (at least in my case) easily overlooked. >OK, I'm the only stoopnagel . . . >G yes that is correct. InsertMode=SUS affects both the Multiply and Insert Buttons. This is how you do the granular looping thing, and the effect of SUSMultiply and SUSInsert are somewhat different from each other. If you want the more complete granular effect make sure to also set RecordMode and OverdubMode to SUS. And then if you really want to be totally granular, look at the DirectMIDI functions. We expanded the MIDI command set a lot, and there is a whole set of SUS mode commands there for just about everything. This way you can program a midi controller or use a midi keyboard to have all of them available at once. You can go really nuts with this stuff, so be careful - you may cause serious damage to small children or boring adults. Of course there is the usual stuff available from the front, like SUSRecord, SUSOverdub, SUSMultiply, and SUSInsert. But then we've also got SUSReplace, SUSSubstitute, SUSReverse, SUShalfspeed, SUSMute. Those are great fun, you can zap in and out of those functions at lightning speed, creating all sorts of interesting textures and sounds and chopped up loops. Leave overdub on while doing quick stabs of SUShalfspeed, that's a good one. For me, these things are just wide open for experimenting, so I'm really interested to hear what people come up with. Since the usual SUSMultiply and SUSInsert are Unrounded (which does the granular kind of thing), we also completed that picture with rounded versions in MIDI. So for a more normal use you have SUSRoundMultiply and SUSRoundInsert. This basically means they start Multiply (or Insert) when you press the button down, and when you release the button it ends Multiply in the normal Rounded fashion. (meaning it rounds off to the next cycle and you've got the cycles counting up neatly afterwards.) This is just helpful as another way to control Multiply and Insert, since a lot of people seem to like that Sustain action on the switches for control. It can be helpful because you always know the function is only going while you have the button pressed, and when you let go it is off. If you aren't pushing it, it ain't on. Then there are a couple oddball SUS functions that have some interesting possibilities. SUSNextLoop and SUSMuteRetrigger. SUSMuteRetrigger Mutes the loop when you press the button down, and Retriggers it from the start when you let go. That's a handy way to mute everything for a solo break and then bring it all back together on the down beat when you are ready. Or dream up your own creative use. Then there is that SUSNextLoop. That actually jumps you into the Next loop when you press it down, and sends you back to the previous loop when you let go. If you press it really fast you'll jump back and forth for quick staccato bits of live sound construction. Or you could use it as a more musically controllable way to shift between loops - you lean into it and go into the sound of the next loop, pull back to come into the base loop, etc. oh, one other thing with SUSNextLoop. (this is in the manual). The NoteOn message sends you into the NextLoop, and the NoteOff message sends you to the previous loop. If you set up a midi controller to only send the NoteOff, that becomes a Previous loop button! So you can have one button just send the NoteOn to go up, and another sends the NoteOff to go down, and you've got Loop increment/decrement! (also, for the midi-note challenged, all of this also works with Continuous Controller messages, where a positive value on the given controller is the same as NoteOn, and a 0 value is the same as NoteOff.) Ok, go make noise now. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com