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dear all whenever I've time I take tours in your webpages trying to listen and understand what everybody do with the looping It's very interesting trying to identify the not always conscious process underlying the operation of looping. Most of the times the first, almost instictive use of this technology is a kinda of antidote to solitude I.e.: I play by myself, but myself is me and my looping tools, that multiply me and create other me (mainly comping, riffing or droning...) so that I can play over that my solo, my solo, my solo...and so on. This is what I call the lonesome guitarist complex... looks very blue-eyed, I know, but believe it or not, it's what most of us do (I'm not calling myself out...) out from there opens a vaste land of possibilities: where technology is no more a way to represent something or to fill a gap I thought it would be interesting and usefull trying to describe these operations and try to build an archetypal or structural alphabet or a list of possible processes analyzed not in their concrete sequences of interactions with the machine/machines but under a more abstract point of view, whichever is the concrete interpretation one can give of that I'll bring just a couple of examples of looping- concepts I sometime use: THE HIDDEN PLOT Start overdubbing layers with seemingly no rythmic sense. the rythmic meaning comes at the end of the overdubbing as a inexpected final result COMP MOVING instead of looping the comping, loop the melody. Then start comping over moving and changing the harmonic sense of the phrase. I m's just considering now a tipical static way of interpretating the loop thing. Obviously structures become more and more complex when they become dynamic, for instance with feedback, substitutions, etc. so what do we do when we loop? Is there someone willing to share this? thank you bruno --