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re: GODDESS's forward/reverse 'accident



  hey Rick, woohoo!, still up and loopy!   lol!  Thanks for the tips.  I
play around with palindromic polyrhythms and teach them in my lessons, I
also used to use simple  rhythmic palindromes  as count-ins when recording
in reverse with tape.  So I'm familiar with the concepts.  I can't wait to
try these out!  
  Yes, amy and I have been corresponding a bit lately.  I wish I got to see
the festival.  
  Something I found particularly interesting about my vocal loop is that
there's alot of sliding of notes relative to eachother,  changing chords
between tension and resolve, and despite all this, it's still almost
impossible for me to tell which direction this was recorded at.  It's
pretty wild!   
  Anyway, nighters for now, -will talk soon, K?  

Hugs,

CQ

At 01:11 AM 7/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Dear Goddess,
>
>Viz a vis this idea of forwards and backwards loops.
>Try this on for size:
>
>Start playing around with some palindromic rhythms.
>
>an example would be this simple rhythm in 5/8
>
>
>5/8   ||: D*T*D :||
>
>where D = a bass note
>      T = a treble note
>      * = a rest
>
>These could be melodic or percussive sounds.
>
>Flip 'em over backwards and , voila, you have the same rhythm coming as
>going!!!!
>
>Here's a beautiful rhythm from Cuba called 'Cascara' that is rhythmically
>palindromic:
>
>||:  T*TT*T*TT*T*TT*T  :||
>     1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a
>
>*by the way, if these rhythms don't line up, select them and change the 
>font
>to courier or andale (fixed width fonts that make all characters line up).
>That's how we send rhythms on the frame drummers list without having to 
>use
>a notation program.
>
>Now make the melody palindromic as well, as in:
>
>||:  1*33*5*77*5*33*1  :||
>     1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a
>
>I'm using 1, 3, 5 and 7 as whatever degree of whatever mode or scale you
>happen to choose (hence, locrian mode would be 1,  flat 3,  flat 5,  flat
>7).
>
>You see what I mean?     Excellent for forwards and backwards and forwards
>playing that still stays 'consonant' both rhythmically and harmonically.
>
>Try it,  you'll like it..........  <smile>
>
>Hope you are well.  How's that new repeater coming along?  Can't wait to
>hear you perform at the World's First All Woman Looping Festival, October
>4th at the San Jose Museum of Art.  Amy X Neuburg was phenomenal and
>phenomenally well recieved at this past weeks' Y2K2 Loopfest, btw, and she
>will also be on the bill with you as the headliner.  It's going to kick
>butt.
>
>warmly,   Rick Walker (loop.pool)
>
>
>


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