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GODDESS can we have a listen to this accident or isnt it the instinctive result of your sutained work with those stuctures in your guitar playing that made you sing palindromic by instinct work and search always land in your instinctive playing (finnaly....;=) where can I find more info on the palindromic uses in music how did you discover this way of generating structures are there others ways very interested Claude ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goddess" <thefates@earthlink.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 11:35 AM Subject: re: GODDESS's forward/reverse 'accident > hey Rick, woohoo!, still up and loopy! lol! Thanks for the tips. I > play around with palindromic polyrhythms and teach them in my lessons, I > also used to use simple rhythmic palindromes as count-ins when >recording > in reverse with tape. So I'm familiar with the concepts. I can't wait >to > try these out! > Yes, amy and I have been corresponding a bit lately. I wish I got to >see > the festival. > Something I found particularly interesting about my vocal loop is that > there's alot of sliding of notes relative to eachother, changing chords > between tension and resolve, and despite all this, it's still almost > impossible for me to tell which direction this was recorded at. It's > pretty wild! > Anyway, nighters for now, -will talk soon, K? > > Hugs, > > CQ > > At 01:11 AM 7/20/02 -0700, you wrote: > >Dear Goddess, > > > >Viz a vis this idea of forwards and backwards loops. > >Try this on for size: > > > >Start playing around with some palindromic rhythms. > > > >an example would be this simple rhythm in 5/8 > > > > > >5/8 ||: D*T*D :|| > > > >where D = a bass note > > T = a treble note > > * = a rest > > > >These could be melodic or percussive sounds. > > > >Flip 'em over backwards and , voila, you have the same rhythm coming as > >going!!!! > > > >Here's a beautiful rhythm from Cuba called 'Cascara' that is >rhythmically > >palindromic: > > > >||: T*TT*T*TT*T*TT*T :|| > > 1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a > > > >*by the way, if these rhythms don't line up, select them and change the >font > >to courier or andale (fixed width fonts that make all characters line >up). > >That's how we send rhythms on the frame drummers list without having to >use > >a notation program. > > > >Now make the melody palindromic as well, as in: > > > >||: 1*33*5*77*5*33*1 :|| > > 1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a > > > >I'm using 1, 3, 5 and 7 as whatever degree of whatever mode or scale you > >happen to choose (hence, locrian mode would be 1, flat 3, flat 5, >flat > >7). > > > >You see what I mean? Excellent for forwards and backwards and >forwards > >playing that still stays 'consonant' both rhythmically and harmonically. > > > >Try it, you'll like it.......... <smile> > > > >Hope you are well. How's that new repeater coming along? Can't wait to > >hear you perform at the World's First All Woman Looping Festival, >October > >4th at the San Jose Museum of Art. Amy X Neuburg was phenomenal and > >phenomenally well recieved at this past weeks' Y2K2 Loopfest, btw, and >she > >will also be on the bill with you as the headliner. It's going to kick > >butt. > > > >warmly, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > > > > > > > > --- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > -Then, anything is possible..." > > http://home.earthlink.net/~thefates > > Please visit The Guitar Cafe. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-guitar-cafe > > >