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Ah, you see I will totally disagree with you there. When you apply distortion to your guitar, you immediately change things like tone and sustain. Minor thirds sound more nasty, notes ring out longer. Unless you're applying distortion post performance, it's going to (should) change the way you play, and therefore can't be thought of as passive. Many effects devices have lot's of realtime parameter options, and can be very similar in nature to rocking your finger on a string to produce vibrato or any other more finger oriented effect. Mark Sottilaro On Monday, July 22, 2002, at 12:00 AM, Kim Flint wrote: > To me an effect is something that just sits there and does it's thing > with little or no interaction from the user. Like a reverb, or a chorus > or distortion pedal, at least the way most people use such things. > Sound goes in, gets changed in some consistent way, comes out again. > Once you've turned the effect on you otherwise go about playing your > instrument, which is the thing you interact with in order to convert > whatever is inside you into audible music outside of you. The effect > simply affects the way it sounds. So to me the instrument is > interactive, the effect passive. > > From that perspective, a loop that is simply recorded and left to > repeat indefinitely would fall more in the "effect" category. When you > make looping an interactive effort where various techniques are used to > change the resulting sound according to your musical directive, then > looping becomes more of an instrument. > > kim > > At 10:44 PM 7/21/2002, Tom Dauria wrote: >> what constitutes an "effect"? ayaya poopoo? this dialogue lacks >> precision/syntactical cohesion *harshbud* >> I guess "loop as effect" means "alterating ; ) a loop in some way >> from >> its original form" or some such gist. >> -Tom the Tonal Transmuter >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com >