Re: Loop approach: Loop as effect

[jim palmer <jimp@pobox.com>]

i gave no definition of effect.  in fact i am refusing to define, 
especially at the rough borders.

i have played trumpet for many years, so i don't need to tell a brass 
player
to try it for me.  believe me, the instrument doesn't just make lip buzz 
sound "nicer"
or "more focused on a single frequency."  this is somewhat like saying an 
organ 
just makes key click sound nicer...

i agree that the players body is more part of the equation in brass (and 
all winds, really)
than in string and percussion instruments....

hmmm, "...something to this effect..." was an intentional pun?
good one, either way...




> If you tell a brass player to "blow his instrument" and then take the
> instrument away, what you will hear is "melodic sound" generated by the 
>lips
> vibrating in the stream of air. If you add the instrument, the sound is
> louder and more focused on a single frequency and sounds what most people
> will call "nicer", but this is actually well-consistent with the 
>definition
> of an "effect" you gave...
> 
> Mind you, I chose the trombone (or any brass instrument) here for a 
>reason -
> your "the instrument does generate sound" point would be valid for about 
>any
> other instrument I can think of at the moment (except for blowing a comb 
>or
> singing onto a timpano or something to this effect)...
> 
> Rainer
> 
> 
> > actually, this doesn't make sense.
> > a brass instrument does generate sound.
> > though the lip is part of the equation, the instrument doesn't just
> > amplify lip buzz...
> >
> >
> > there will always be a distinction blur between effect and instrument.
> > is a wah pedal an effect?
> > how about the guitar amp?
> > good luck being consistent on the hairy edge...
> >
> > "Nothing is intrinsically good or evil, but its usage may
> > make it so." - St. Thomas Aquinas
> >
> >
> >
> >
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