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At 10:43 AM 7/28/2002, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >Right. It does make the Repeater awkward to work with in that respect. >Frankly, when you saw me at Loopfest, I was taking clock from the >AdrenaLinn. How the hell could they let a product out the door that >didn't even work with other products from the same company? Stupid. >Then they get all snippy with me when I criticize them. Again I ask the >question: How could they let a product out the door with an issue as deep >as this? The mind boggles. Didn't anyone at Electrix hook this thing to >a MoFX? The only reason I never said anything was because I'm always >using another clock and I figured this issue was being dealt with in OS >1.2. Oh well. They shipped about a year late, which indicates to me the whole project was much harder than they had thought it would be. (I could have told them that...loopers are really complicated to develop.) That long delay was likely causing them big losses, so they probably reached a point where they had to ship something or die. So they shipped with many bugs, as we all know. Also, many of the Repeater's weak points seem to be around real-time operation. Synchronization of loops is more difficult than it seems, and requires a tight, low-latency real time OS to do it well. I suspect there are some fundamental architecture problems in the Repeater that made real-time control very difficult for them. You can just feel that when you use it. When I opened mine up, I was amazed to see they were running the whole thing out of a single motorola dsp processor. Reasonable choice for all the dsp processing, but trying to do all the dsp plus the real-time issues of a looper ui, synchronization, midi, memory management, etc in that one dsp processor? wow, that's insane. It's no surprise to me they had so many problems with real-time stuff like sync. It may have even been impossible for them to fix some of the issues. Probably it was after many nights drowning their repeater sorrows at the local karaoke bar that they got inspired to change direction to karaoke. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com