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At 10:09 PM 8/26/2002, ernesto schnack wrote: > > With all due respect, I absolutely cannot understand this idea at all. > > Jam Bands play improvised music, and Phish is playing Madison Square > > Garden on New Year's Eve. > >Well Phish is an exception to everything. They play stadiums despite >no radio airplay or MTV. In a way, they's still not mainstream despite >being so huge. To me, the average non-musician likes written songs >with words that he can sing along to, both on the radio, and when he >goes to a concert. That is the impression I've gotten from the people >I've met and what i hear and see on the radio and mtv. Of course many >people listen to improvised music, but i wouldn't call it mainstream. >But that depends what one considers to be "mainstream." I know improv >doesn't automatically equal experimental, but i don't see an >improv-based piece going #1 anytime soon either. A lot of rappers improvise their raps. Many of them really take pride in that skill. I think it follows the same social-historical arc that jazz comes from, with the same improvisational traditions in a new form. The dj scratching in hip-hop is almost always improvised. Listening to Q-bert reminds me more of listening to Charlie Parker than anything else. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com