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> Guitar synths make matters worse. If a guitar player is looking to expand > his or her tonal palette, a guitar synth will probably win out over a > looper. now dat's jes' plain silly. i'd love to have a repeater, etc. but i'm in the do with what you have tax bracket and what i have is what i've found at yard sales and in dusty corners of farmtown music stores over the past 20 years. among the collection are some synth and guit synth gems i'd never part with(x911, gr300, juno106, cz,dx,etc.). i've got it all fired up in space modular wheatfield mode underneath a big nightsky delay. technically it's not looping, but everything's usually based around 1 or two chords and subdivisions therein, lots of textural fader and knobplay juxtaposed with cassettes of jerry falwell's paranoid armmaggedon and how to stop you cat from scratching, etc. ok ok it's techno, but it's more root than rave(not that there's anything wrong with rave) cuz i incorporate things like kalimba and dulcimer and a straight guitar signal in there somewhere. anyway the point i was gonna make is umm would i be allowed to loop my gr300 or my dulcimer thru the x911 and still be welcome on the list? in the definition of looping i think that sound source and procedure is secondary to the fact that an aurally encompassing meditative(or abrasive) space is created. it's only the impact that matters. how the performer achieves it is all wrapped up in the magic of individuality. woh, sappin' out a little here... seriously tho', with a gr33 and an edp before me and solomon saying choose one and the other shall twice be halved in three, i would'nt hesitate to save the looper. just don' ask me to trade in the x911 for one. well... maybe if it was straight across... ah dunno, how can one even compare - a guitarist looking to expand his tonal palette in the context of a regyahler band(one that has at least 5 songs under 20 minutes) may very well choose a gr33. a guitarist with a pipeful of divinorium looking for a ready guide in some celestial voice may very well choose a looper, or a shortwave, or geddy lee. no not geddy lee. nevermind. loop good. synth good. ith awl goood. shayne