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Ya Stan- that's a joke- Carvin makes plenty of road worthy gear etc- from cheap entry models to very well built higher end equipment- having a rider like that is prima-donna land IMO. Jumping into my mind are all the expensive tube amps I've seen letting people down, terribly overpriced PRS/Gibson/Fender instruments- and of course I'd be willing to say that Fender and Gibson put out far crappier low end equipment than Carvin does in the lower range anyway- and at least Carvin does not overcharge for the nicer items. The Carvin pickups are not so important in general- but no one else make an Allan Holdsworth designed pickup- that's more than enough for some people to want to try it out I think. Cliff Thrower of Flame > since we're all oh teein and such-i wanna know why those <carvin p/us> >are > so important?is it the name brand(allan holdswworth) er wot? > just that i think <carvin> in general,amps,guitars,pa s,are pretty cheap, > cheap sounding, cheaply put together... > i work w/ a band who has in their rider"no carvin or peavey equipment use in > house" and there is a reason for that specifically. > s > (flame suit w/mask on!!) >