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John Tidwell asked: What device are you using to program the PK-5? I seem to recall that you have to go thru an irritating sequence of steps for programming each pedal on the pedalboard that involves preparing the pedal to receive an incoming midi message & then sending the proper midi command from an external device. <snip> 'Tis true--gotta program it one time--I must confess that I am paying great attention to the tools used by my peers here on the list and so I had the Oxygen8 handy--but a sequencer or the PMC would also send the pertinent info. I didn't find it irritating . . . much more troublesome had it not received MIDI In . . . It also has the pipe thing goin' on (MIDI smart echo) . . . Gary