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Hey kids. Again, I want to say thanks for all the info and help. I didn't know enough about the EPROM burning process to realize that it was probably not software. So, what I did last night was take the whole thing apart (again) and clean that baby up. I took each EPROM and memory chip (which I had not previously touched, upon finding the bent EPROM pin... yes Kim, it was in fact in there after I fixed it) and scrubbed it all down with contact cleaner. The EPROMs seemed fine, but I did notice a fair amount of black on the cuetip after cleaning off the memory chips. I then put it all back together and, of course, it worked fine. Played with it for a few hours with no problem and went to bed with a loop running and woke up with it still there. I wouldn't call this a good test, but it was barely staying booted up for 5 minutes before I did the big clean. I'm going to try and repeat this every night to make sure everything's good. I still feel this is kind of weird though. I've got a Mac SE30 that still runs with no problems. I also had a Mac IIX that ran for years and years and years. In the hot humid summers and bitter cold winters of upstate NY. I've never had to clean a contact or reseat anything, yet this seems common with the EDP. Someone said it was because of the fact we take the EDP out and bang it around a lot more than computer gear, but I used to take the SE30 around with me to gigs as a MIDI sequencer, so it often went to gigs in sub 0 conditions, only to find itself in a heated enviornment moments later. The thing still boots up. I still use it to run the "Fish" screensaver in leu of a real fishtank. Could it be the type/brand of ram Gibson uses? Why not clean it with a cleaner that protects it from oxididation before installing it? My unit was a newer Gibson unit that's probably been a San Rafael CA storeage room most of it's life. That can't be a bad climate for electronics gear. Moderate and dry all year. I know shit happens, but something tells me that other forces are at work in this case. We need to tell those Brits to stay away from the stout and start QC'n their gear before they ship it. Mark Sottilaro Kim Flint wrote: > At 03:09 PM 9/9/2002, sine@zerocrossing.net wrote: > >First, I want to thank you all for your excellent role as "Gibson >customer > >support" and for all the good information. Tonight I shall (once again) > >open up my EDP and this time attempt to clean all the contacts. I only > >reseated the eproms, and upon finding the bent pin, I figured that was > >obviously my problem. When it worked after that, I thought I was done. > I > >didn't even bother with the memory becaues the fault seemed so obvious. > > You might also want to recheck the rom pins too. On occasion I've bent a > rom pin back, but didn't do it very well and left a kink in it. Then >when I > pressed it into the socket I just bent it out all over again. It's worth >it > to take some care and make sure the are all really in there. > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com