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> If I'm eventually just going to settle on only one routing scheme because > playing around with this stuff during performance is too confusing, then > obviously it's not worth speccing it into the rig. FWIW, I originally put in my patchbay so that I could experiment with different schemes expecting to eventually settle on my favorite and ditch the bay. I did find a favorite patching scheme, but I ended up loving the flexibility and using it so much that instead of ditching it, I just went in and normalled my favorite scheme into the patchbay and left the patchbay there. Now with no patch cables in, I get my favorite/most used configuration. I now constantly use the patchbay to: insert a volume pedal between any insert point, change the order of effects, insert a borrowed piece of gear in between any insert point, and debug some non-operational thing (all too common...). Also the patch bay makes a great external plug point for _any_ 1/4" jack. I've got a couple of spare points that I use for EDP feedback and footpedal jacks so I don't have to reach into the backside of my rack with a flashlight just to plug everything in when I setup. Jon