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Yo Mark, Ya said: > While I LOVE the things Amy X and Brian Kenny Fresno do with their > loopers (Brian's a JamMan guy) I always get the feeling that they're > just trying to get away with not having to deal with not having a band, > you know? That's not my take on either of those two at all. The only way I could see Amy doing her thing with "a band" would be if her band was half a dozen or more clones of herself, all singing together and starting or stopping on a dime. And that in itself wouldn't take her own post-modernist/sample-based theatrical performative element into consideration (i.e. very visibly beating on her drumKAT controller while different EDP things leap out), which is such a big part of her "thing." > Amy seems to have her act down to the note. Indeed; she's a composer, by her own definition. > Sure, the > looper helps her do her show more easily, See my last comment above - I really don't perceive her thing as being a "replacement" for a hypothetical band of multiple Amy Neubergs (which is what she'd need to play her stuff sans EDP). It strikes me as being a very direct use of the EDP on its own terms, frequently to musical ends that COULDN'T be acheived without it. Another perspective: Amy actually HAS a band of her own, so it's not as if she's using the Echoplex as a means of "filling in" for backing musicians who aren't available. Third perspective: might one say that playing along to sequences and drum machines would be at least as much of a "band substitute" as layering numerous vocal overdubs? > but is that what loopers are > about? Not for me, I think. But for her, apparently so, yes? How incredibly boring would it be if people automatically assumed that looping was supposed to be used for a specific musical style or approach? Oh wait... that's pretty much the way it is anyway! ;) > To me it seems to be the difference between > making soup from a receipe or going to a market, buying what seems good > and then making it up from scratch. > Sure, you'll come up with stuff > that's not so edible sometimes, but you learn with time. Could it be that the "learning with time" angle is another way of describing a person coming up with their own recipie, which they then draw upon in their work? > Maybe this > not so interesting for the audience, but it's a hell of a lot more > interesting to me as a musician, and to be honest, with the money I > made doing more pop structured music, I'm in this for fun now. This does raise the question: why DO you take your music in front of an audience, if getting what you do across to them isn't much of a priority in comparison to your own enjoyment - which you say is paramount in your concerns, and could certainly be done on your own? Hmmmm... All in good humor - but serious interest and intent... --Andre LaFosse http://www.altruistmusic.com