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Wow! The confessional "spirit" has really taken hold of the list today (it seems). I was laying awake a little last night thinking (always dangerous) and sort of mentally blew the dust off some old files tucked back in a dark, dank, cobweb-encrusted corner. I began to think about what my very first musical experiences were. What were my first record purchases? I really don't know what sort of "influence" these folks exert on my current musical trajectory (relative to my list yesterday). These are just some things that came to mind (remember I'm nearly 50 at this point, so this is all ancient history): Very first musical experience: White southern -style protestant acapella church music -- gospel hymns in 4-part harmony (think "Oh Brother Where Art Thou Soundtrack" and you have a pretty accurate picture -- I heard this every week throughout my entire childhood). My parents music: 50s white bread pop/smaltz and show tunes (Elvis, Sinatra, the Lettermen, Paul Anka, Pat Boone, etc.) just a little bit of folk music (Woody Guthrie, Peter Paul & Mary, et al) and a little bit of country (Sons of the Pioneers' "Tumblin' Tumblweed" comes instantly, immediately to mind). My first instrument: Cheap $10 -$15 student guitar (an Xmas gift from my folks in 1964 -- I had a cousin named Gary who was a year younger than me that could aready play a few 3-chord pop songs -- I wanted my parents to be as proud and amazed at me as they were at him -- plus the Beatles hit the States about that same time). Very first record (LP) purchase: The Association (with the song "Windy" -- I had a big crush on a girl named Wendy in Jr. High, I got the disc in a fit of mooning, juvenile fantasy over her). Very First Single (33.3 RPM): "Come Together" by the Beatles [Side 1] Something [Side 2] (I wore that record out on an old Motorola record player that had a tone arm that must've weighed nearly half a pound) 2nd LP purchase: "Bookends" by Simon and Garfunkle (I had an English teacher during my freshman year of High School who thought they were the greatest thing since sliced whatever -- he made us "analyze" many of their songs to death). 3rd LP purchase: Wichita Lineman by Glenn Campbell (it's funny, I still harbor a soft spot for those old Jimmy Web tunes). [Then something changed -- I don't know what -- puberty?] 4th LP purchase: Pink Floyd's "Ummagumma" (Double LP for only $4.99 -- wow! -- I loved "Careful with That Axe Eugene" and played it at ear-splitting volumes). "Grantchester Medows" becomes the first song I ever learned to play -- but I cannot sing and play simultaneously so I give up hope of ever doing that at all. 5th LP purchase: "The Collectors" by The Collectors (a Canadian band of misfits from 1969 -- 2nd side of the album was a 20+ minute concept piece called "What Love Suite" an embarrassingly corny mix of classical, jazz, rock and psychedelic elements -- I really dug the guitar player's fuzzed-out, chaotic, orgasmic, solos -- I wanted to do that more than anything -- now, I don't even remember the guy's name -- this inspired a long stream of fuzz-box purchases and bad playing on my part. 1st live music experiences: My parents took me to a "Hootenanny" folk music thing when I was between 8 and 10 and somewhere else (maybe a church "talent show"?) where I hear somebody play "Yakety Sax" on the saxophone a la Boots Randolph (these are sortta intertwined in my mind and don't know which was first or if they were even at the same event). 2nd Live music experiences: Dances in H.S. Some friends had a band called Red Rock (they actually did Crimson covers at a school dance -- a feat of moxie that still amazes me to this day -- instead of a mellotron they had a violin player). 3rd concert experience: "The Grass Roots" (at the rival HS across town -- a couple of friends of mine and I were able to sneak in -- I only remember the drum solo and the lighting, not much else) 4th concert: My first big-time concert (where I bought tickets for a major show/venue) was ELP at the Hollywood Bowl --summer of '71 5th concert Pink Floyd at the Hollywood Bowl -- same summer (my mind was blown away by the music -- and other things) 6th concert Alice Cooper at the Hollywood Bowl -- 1 or 2 summers later (Captain Beyond, and Humble Pie opened) After that I began to get into early Mahavishnu Orchestra and fusion in general. But then I went away to art school in Mexico and was sortta out of the "pop music" loop for a while. I hardly heard anything but classical and Mexican folk ("mariachi") music for the better part of a year. One significant exception however was being exposed to Isao Tomita's music in Chapultapec park (in Mexico City). That was my first awareness of "electronic music" per se. I heard it in a place called "the Grotto" which had a quad (or even hexaphonic) sound system. It was amazing. The music is embarrassing now but it was sure cool then. When I came back to the States in '74 I was sort of musically lost. I listened to and enjoyed some prog rock, Yes, Tull, Floyd, ELP, and in particular King Crimson of the period . . . and began to re-discover (belatedly) fusion. But, I also discovered Leo Kottke for the first time. Also got to see Merle Travis perform at a "Day of Folk Music" at the local community college. I began to experiment with drop-D and open tunings, fingerpicking and slide playing myself. But, the thing that really, really, really changed me at that time was going over to a friend of a friend's house in Oxnard, CA to hear a fellow named Randy Jones play music in his living room. He'd rigged up a tape delay with an altered reel-to-reel and did spontaneous duets with himself on an old Strat copy with a slide. My musical world changed that night -- I was obsessed with finding out ways I could do this as well -- and finding other examples of this sort of music. That, of course, lead me to Fripp and Eno's 1973 "No Pussyfooting" and 1975 "Evening Star" LPs. I was "ruined for life" by those discs. I liked a lot of other kinds of music (for just listening) after that. But, my course was pretty much set (for playing) to figuring out how to loop like Fripp (and that fellow, Jones) forever after. Of course I didn't call it "looping." I didn't have a term for it. I tried renting/borrowing expensive tape "echoplexes" from music stores and eventually the first few analog . . . and then digital delays came along. I couldn't afford any of 'em "til I was out of college and married with a real job -- remember I was a starving art student during all of this previous time. My first delay was a DOD (or Digitech) stomp box with about a 1.5 second delay -- hardly loop-worthy by today's standards but I was happy at the time. Then Electro- Harmonix came out with the 16-second delay and I blew may savings (and nearly my marriage) by buying 2 of those puppies (and the remote switches to control them). I finally had my "Fripp-in-a-boxes" and an old Akai second-hand 1/4 inch reel-to- reel and 2 Fender Champ amps and I was set. I also had a half- dozen old stomp boxes of various types and a Morley wah/ volume/panning pedal. I was in heaven . . . the neighbors probably thought otherwise (but at least the old lady with whom we shared an adjacent apartment wall was already deaf). I bought my first (chrome) Ebow in 1980 directly from Heetsound. Throughout the early-to-mid '80s I was much too timid to play any of this in any more of a public space than my apartment. If you think loop-friendly venues are in short supply now imagine then. In '86 or '87, through a mutual Friend, Jeff Kaiser heard about me and pestered me to do a "House Concert" with him. That having been successfully pulled-off, gave me some confidence to do more . . . and then some more . . . and then some more. And that . . . more or less . . . is that. The rest is covered by my silly "bio" on Jeff's pfMentum label website I suppose. I'm sortta surprised at the length of this e-mail. I originally thought it'd be this short little thing. Somewhere after "Ummmagumma" I lost crontrol and the rest is blather, blather, blather away. Now I'm wondering whether I should press "send" or not. Gee. See where this confessional spirit has gotten us. Argh! I should have stopped after "Wichita Lineman." Oh well, here goes. Best of luck, Ted Killian http://www.mp3s.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.htm