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probably talking about the zoom 2100. they go in the 50-75$ range on ebay. i had one for a few weeks (used). it has a 32 sec sampler (which is the lo-fi mode)-it can have a 16 sec sample (higher rate). i thought the quality of both were good. it also has a 6 sec delay and a 10 sec delay, and then of course it has 3 sets of 5 sec samples. i thought the quality was good, effects were decent, but the problem w/ mine was having it used i found the "buttons" were not high quality-sometimes it worked when you hit it, other times it didn't--so not very accurate. plus the 5 sec samples relied on you keeping your foot on the button to activate. but the 16 and 32 sec sample section was nice at times (good for a low-cost long loop). my 2 cents... s--- >For our new italian Friend.. > >I spent an enjoyable noon discussing and eating with Kevin Cooney >recently (who was coming with his familiy on holidays in france and >Italy), and during the discussion he talked about a cheap Zoom >machine (unfortunately I don't remember which model exactly, but I'm >sure fellows here will do) that had a 30 seconds looper (or 3 * 8 >using the three switches of the pedal board), for next to nothing... > >It may be a way for you to start something (in my early days, >looping meant a 2 sec Art machine...), especially if you can step on >a second hand one... > > >Olivier malhomme --