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I wasn't knocking CD-r's. In fact I'm quite happy with the do-it-yourself-ness they represent. I sometimes even specifically look for them when record shopping. What I was alluding to is the attitude the record stores, and to some degree, the buying public has to them. It's happening less and less, but I've had experiences with record stores making faces when they find out your "CD's" are CDr's. Matt ------------------------ Dave Eichenberger wrote: Funny, in the mid 90's, we were one of the first bands in my area (Tampa Bay) to release albums on CD-r...each hand numbered and signed. Lots of other bands looked disapprovingly like 'Oh, did you do that at *home*???'. Well, with CD duplication then being around $2k for 1000 copies that might eventually be used as furniture in your house, we made the right decision. And sold a hell of a lot of them, and got good reviews from everyone we sent it to, including the major area newspapers, who never mentioned that they were on CD-r. Maybe you can't get that 'major distro deal, dude' with CD-rs, but selling them at shows has paid our rent more than a few times. Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com And before that I wrote: >(I guess this is part of the reason that CD-r's don't sell as >well as cd's.) > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail