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Ciao Italo. Agreed. Those plastic jack connectors do make me nervous too. Although, I really love the resonator & drone patches on the 80. They work nice for loop post processing. If you get a chance Track 1&4 of my online Stick demo have some PCM80 patches http://www.yourwebeddy.com/lou/ Regards Lou Rossi ps. Did not know about the delay being expanded...43 sec? wow >From: "Italo De Angelis" <italoop@libero.it> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Subject: Re: LEXICON pcm 81 gear lust >Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:41:35 +0100 > >I still own the old PCM80 for two particular features I like: >-the sound of its resonators >-the expanded delay time for looping; adding 2 SIMMS modules, I got 6 dly >lines w/43 seconds each (not possible on Pcm81). > >what I hate in the PCM80: >-those cheap PLASTIC 1/4" jack connectors >-the fact that Lexicon cheated by putting out 4 versions of the same unit: >original Pcm80 w/1/42 jacks plugs and S/Pdif >2nd version w/XLR plugs >3rd version called PCM81 w/AES >4th version called Pcm81 w/24 bit converters > >3rd and 4th versions also incorporate some of the algorithms and presets >that previously were available by purchasing cards only. > >I think Lexicon should have marketed the Pcm80 (and 90) better than they >did, offering those algorithms and expansions already in the units, for a >smaller fraction of money of what they charged for the cards. > > >Greetings >Italo > > >The Dual FX sound card for the 80/81 has the "Aerosol" vortex patch. I >think >the MXP 1 & g2 models have a few more. I just used the pcm80 live for the >first time last week. I did my first solo stick/loop gig & I so took out >the >EDP, Digitech Echo+ & the 80 & had a fun time... >cheers >LOU _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup