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i must be crazy... i have both the pcm80 and pcm91 and i think i like the pcm80 better for everything, except really clean verbs... but i don't usually use those kinds of verbs. something about the older converters just sounds great to me. great bread and butter unit for me. > -----Original Message----- > From: Italo De Angelis [mailto:italoop@libero.it] > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:42 AM > To: Loopers-Delight > Subject: Re: LEXICON pcm 81 gear lust > > > I still own the old PCM80 for two particular features I like: > -the sound of its resonators > -the expanded delay time for looping; adding 2 SIMMS modules, I > got 6 dly lines w/43 seconds each (not possible on Pcm81). > > what I hate in the PCM80: > -those cheap PLASTIC 1/4" jack connectors > -the fact that Lexicon cheated by putting out 4 versions of the same >unit: > original Pcm80 w/1/42 jacks plugs and S/Pdif > 2nd version w/XLR plugs > 3rd version called PCM81 w/AES > 4th version called Pcm81 w/24 bit converters > > 3rd and 4th versions also incorporate some of the algorithms and > presets that previously were available by purchasing cards only. > > I think Lexicon should have marketed the Pcm80 (and 90) better > than they did, offering those algorithms and expansions already > in the units, for a smaller fraction of money of what they > charged for the cards. > > > Greetings > Italo > > > The Dual FX sound card for the 80/81 has the "Aerosol" vortex > patch. I think > the MXP 1 & g2 models have a few more. I just used the pcm80 live for the > first time last week. I did my first solo stick/loop gig & I so > took out the > EDP, Digitech Echo+ & the 80 & had a fun time... > cheers > LOU > > > > >From: Richard Zvonar <zvonar@zvonar.com> > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: LEXICON pcm 81 gear lust > >Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 09:31:03 -0800 > > > >At 12:17 PM -0500 1/6/03, dcoffin@taunton.com wrote: > >> These are deep boxes, certainly, but I sold a PCM80 I'd > lusted after for > >>years after about 2 months, because I was so underwhelmed by it as a > >>mangler/complexifier. I did NOT discover it to be an FX > playground....but > >>then, I have kind of a modular predisposition when it comes to > fx design, > >>and the 80/81s are decidedly not multifx. Maybe I bailed too soon, and > >>you'll have better luck/more persistence.... > > > >I was similarly unimpressed when I first fired up my PCM80, but > one night I > >was showing it to a friend and after he left I kept playing with it for > >hou > ain quality of sound and consistency > >of user interface that is elegant and "musical." Still, when it comes to > >performance mangling I prefer Eventides and normally use three > of them. The > >Lexicons sit in studio rack and never hit the road. > >-- > > > >______________________________________________________________ > >Richard Zvonar, PhD > >(818) 788-2202 > >http://www.zvonar.com > >http://RZCybernetics.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > ___________________________________________ > Italo De Angelis > Preset Design Engineer - Audio Division > italo@eventide.com > EVENTIDE AUDIO CUSTOMERS SUPPORT > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventidehelps/ > > >