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man,i guess fame does has its price doesn´t it? cheers l.a > It comes down to a couple of actual facts, which are > certainly never > reported as much as the wild speculation and > insinuation preferred by the > press in the UK. So far this morning, Pete's still > not been charged with > anything, and he's out on bail, as well as > volunteered his PC and CDs for > police examination. No word after several days as > to whether or not the > coppers actually found anything. The only fact > involved so far is the > acquisition of his credit card info by an apparently > notorious child porn > web site running out of Texas, that was recently > shut down. Most Americans > have already heard about how the Postal Service not > only has their own > police force, but also has run stings in even > "straight" porn, placing ads > in magazines for mail-order and 900 numbers - and > anyone who gets in touch > with them is apparently guilty as hell, even if they > were just mildly > curious and decided to mail/call. > > It was the US Postal Service that gave Pete > Townshend's info to the police > in the UK, having found his credit card data in > their culling through the > confiscated stuff from the Texas bust. It's > unfortunate and also > unfortunately typical that British Tabloids (which > include the Guardian by > the way) have decided to convict him before any > evidence beyond this single > fact has been found - but if one reads the articles > (if one knows how to > sift through all the innuendo, vagueries and > scandalous non-facts that is) > you'll find that the only facts so far involve the > credit card data, and > Pete's handing over his PC and CDs before being > asked to do so. > > I think back however on the fact that > quasi-paedophilic material has been > openly marketed to the world-at-large (and > especially in the US) publicly > and without any criticism whatsoever for years upon > years. Remember "Bugsy > Malone"? Jon-Benet Ramsey's cavorting in full > makeup etc? So now, after > years of this, a few folks being human get a little > curious about it (and by > this I don't obviously mean paedophiles), and not > being on kiddy-porn > mailing lists, go to a site to see what is going on, > and get prompted to > enter their credit card data. Theoretically it > could be as simple as that. > I recall that Pete Townshend not only has worked > with anti-child abuse > organizations in the past, but has said that he was > abused himself as a > child. Many songs from "Tommy" ("Fiddle About" and > "The Acid Queen" come to > mind) might then have greater perspective, yes? > > If you think about it though, all of those > 'age-verification' routines > involve a credit card. It might have been something > as seemingly innocuous > as this that yielded Pete Townshend's credit card > data - which as you should > know is not presented as the same thing as paying > for entrance to such a > site. Perhaps the Postal Service and the screaming > puritans running their > private police force think otherwise, and have > decided to present such as > the exact opposite. In the meantime the stingee > swings in the media wind, > convicted by proxy and innuendo. > > Before the Internet, British tabloids didn't tend to > be read outside the UK, > though their antics were certainly infamous > world-wide. Now they might have > to improve their responsibility factor, and live up > to the standards held by > the legitimate press. You'd think that having a > good deal to do with the > exascerbated conditions leading up to Princess Di's > death would have caused > this to occur. But then I'm probably wrong. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Tibert" <tibbe@pi.se> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 09:25:AM > Subject: Re: whats up with Pete Townsend? > > > > > > On Wednesday, Jan 15, 2003, at 10:07 > Europe/Stockholm, Louie Angulo > > wrote: > > > > > I just listened to the news about Pete Townsend > jesus, > > > is this just celebrity sensationalism or for > real? > > > cheers > > > L.a > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,3604,874192,00.html > > > > > > > > > > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com