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> next question: does the EDP "read samples" like the repeater and if so >why > does it not have a "pop" at the loop point of a looped sine. does the line > 6 "read samples" and is it's behavior more akin to the repeater or the EDP? > how prevalent is the repeater design architecture becoming in the > delay -loop market? I'm not sure about the Panasonic chips being compatible, but I'll comment on the "pop" question. I wouldn't read too much into the phrase "read samples." In any time-quatized system (i.e., any system where you divide time into discrete chunks) you have "samples" regardless of whether the sample is represented as a voltage level (analog "bucket brigade") or a digital number. Typically the "pop" occurs at the loop splice point because the last sample point is radically different than the first sample point. A characteristic of sampled audio systems is that the smaller the defect (in time) the more audible it is. Hence a quick discontinuity of only one sample point creates a loud "pop." Usually, designers use two techniques to eliminate the discontinuity. 1) Cross-fade the end of the waveform over the beginning. 2) Adjust the loop splice point so that it occurs at a zero-crossing point. Both techinques have their uses and problems. If the input waveform consists of a pure sine wave, after cross-fading the stored waveform will not be a sine wave. I.e., with cross-fading the integrity of the signal suffers. On the other hand, adjusting the loop splice point necessarily changes the length of the sampled waveform. Therefore the zero-crossing adjusted loop will not be the precise length of the original loop. I suspect the Repeater's designers (who are really bright folks) just needed to tweak things a bit to eliminate the "pop." Unfortunately, time ran out. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mail.worldserver.com