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You bring up some very interesting points. (though the scratching of the drum might be a war cry in cricket talk ;-) I tend to find the interface with acoustic instruments often counterintuitive (like fingerings on a woodwind). In fact, the battle for the control of interdependent parameters is the challenge I find (I tend to gravitate toward acoustic instruments myself). I think with many intruments we practice our technique (bowing a viol, blowing a horn) until it becomes SECOND nature (ok, I'm not sure MY bowing will ever become second nature). We have come to terms with the process by altering ourselves We forget that we have altered ourselves. Your point about establishing "tradition" is very interesting from this perspective - we alter ourselves as individuals AND as a culture in this regard (cultures with tonal languages tend to have a much higher incidence of perfect pitch, which way we hear an "infinite scale" tends to vary with the dominanat tonal center of local speech). Attached is a cute example of how we sculpt our perceptions (MS word doc format). I think the inface of some instruments (violincello is my chosen favorite) allow astounding control and expression, but one does have to meet the instrument on it's terms. It reminds me very much of motorcycle racing -- You have put yourself in a different energy level..pretty much all your "gut" survival reactions are the wrong move. I think the repeatability in electronic instruments tend to be (for good or ill) design desicions. RLC circuits tend to feel very physical to me (they even used to be used to model auto suspensions...caps are springs, resistors are linkages, inductors are shocks). It's the work of the designer that introduces (over)stability, let the circuit ring and drift. I like the fact that my synthesizer, like my cello - is thermally sensitive. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail