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In watching people with electronic equipment lately- loopers included- I have become acutely aware of the fact that watching someone become confused, unsure, or contemplative about what they are doing in the midst of a live performance SERIOUSLY detracts from my enjoyment of the performance. I have been there myself- I know what it is like on both sides. I decided to make a solo demo to get local gigs- but upon using my current rig quickly realized I will need to practice and carefully organize my electronic equipment until I don't really have to think about it and the work on stage will be engaging. I think of Jimmy George's recordings- bam/bam/bam- no pauses to program gear- no extra bars of repetition created not by creative choice but by the time required to attend to the "gear". I still cannot see any way to be less than 2 levels removed at times- meaning I will have to perform more than 1 action sometimes before you hear/see a result. (Switch preset on EDP, perform next movement- or switch bank on foot controller, then more etc- switch reverb/delay patch and so on) In any event- it has been a healthy observation/conclusion for me to arrive at and will ultimately improve my set a great deal. The moral of the story is: Learn your loopers like you learn your musical instrument- then take it to the people. Of course, only my 2 cents. Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Jon Wagner [mailto:jondrums@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Real instruments vs. electronic instruments > I don't really consider "seams" a bad thing really. A lot of it has to >do I realized after a little more thinking that the only reason that a hand drum is 100% seamless to me, is that I've spent all my life training my hands to articulate rhythms on a skin surface. If I spend the same amount of time working with a certain electronic instrument I can imagine getting to the same point in my ability to control all the parameters to create music. Jon