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sometime some one comes up with examples of loops in the non music world - usually to justify why what he is saying is not OT :-) Can you contribute to such a list? It also helps to understand the two basic kinds of loops we are using: ** The Feedback loop as happen with tapes, EDP, Mayers and DTs gear... where the output is fed back to the input and thus repeated. - Urine therapy: drink you own urine! Seems to work, really - BSE: Feed the cow with the parts of its ancestors you could not sell. Bad. - Money games: a filtered kind of FB, mostly nothing, sometimes a lot comes back. - The scolar education on a long scale (the pupils turn teachers) - Life with sexual procreation - Mantras if we consider the stimulation effect of the mantra on the singer ** The Sample loop done with Repeater, Jamman, most Software... which is the repetition of the same thing, jumping back or circular: - Oil wars, as recently brought up - The scolar education on a short scale (the teacher repeats his program) - Life with cloning - Year, lunar month, day... - Mantras, if we just think of execution -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org