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Max/Msp

Could anyone tell me what patches, live-loopers are using in MAX/MSP
the only ones I have been able to find are percolate and fripp
which both seem quite basic.
Does one know where any truely cool looping patches are for Max/Msp????
I am trying to research how loopers are using new technology to redefine 
the
compositional language of looping, but I am coming up against a brick wall
as far as MAX/MSP use is concerned.
Any help appreciated
Geoff
(was iecha@hotmail just changed email address to this as hotmail was 
causing
problems.)